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Angel/Devil Counters

On the evony site that desribes these items, it does not specify whether or not you can use the items on yourself to reopen/reclose your gates. That is my question.

If I use broken gates on a player to close his gates, can he use broken gates on himself to reopen his gates? And does it cancel out the 1hr cooldown that I placed on him?
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  • Dave Mata (Product Manager) June 25, 2012 12:42
    From the blog post:
    "Broken Gates x3
    Using this item on another player’s city will allow you to force their gates to remain open or closed (your choice) for 1 hour. Players may only be a victim of this 5 times per day. If your gates have been broken, you can use this to fix them!"

    Each charge has a 1 hour period to it, although using the item to fix the broken gates results in the gates being fixed. They can reapply it on you, but there should be another cooldown preventing back to back application, and you can receive a total of 5 charges a day.
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  • I’m not assured
    So this is not broken. How?? To me its seems it created a more increased aggravation of the already flawed part of Evony game play. Once you sign off you mostly defenseless with this strat. After all account sharing is against the TOS. The ones loving and using this strat to attack normally are the ones who already scout for off line smaller player then go after them when assured there off line. This strat will only encourage them to do the same with more better set up players that have a system of play. Larger players who had enough troops to make the loss far out weigh the penalty and cost of attacking them as what resources they might get.

    Unless you go against the TOS there is no way to counter a strat of such affect if your not signed on and playing.
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    Actually, I disagree bard. All of these items work as originally planned. Although some may not like the idea because we all hate change, it's not necessarily a bad thing. The only thing I think would make the entire thing a little better is to either put these items on the wheel or make them available to purchase via coins. Maybe hot items? My question was answered. It's nice to know at least that if I am online and broken gates are placed on my city, I can use mine to reopen my gates. Otherwise I'd have to random port quickly so that I don't get plundered.

    And although this item is available via purchasing a package, not every player will get broken gates. It would be nice to choose but I'm sure Evony has already determined that most players would choose broken gates so they made it random between the 3 items depending on your chose of Angel/Devil.
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  • I'm going to summarize what I understand from the comment here, and hope that I can get clarification if I am incorrect.

    1) A player can have the broken gate applied to them, and have the gate choice be open or close.

    2) Contingent upon the player being online during the next 1 hour span of time, the victim of the application of an open or a close can immediately apply the broken gate item and it completely nullifies the previous cast, returning gates to free opening and closing at the discretion of the account owner (the afore-mentioned victim).

    3) A cooldown exists, and the maximum times that the item can be applied by another player is 5 times in one day.

    So, is this correct, especially the part in item 2 where a "fix" completely nullifies a "break"?

    Further thoughts:

    - Does any application of a "fix" by a "victim", as would be the case in item 2, apply towards the 5 per day, or are "fixes" unlimited in number, while "charges" (breaking) limted to 5 per day?

    - Does the cooldown start 1 hour after the original cast, or does it start when the original cast "ends" by any means, including a "fix" application?

    - What if a victim is already in a cooldown and attempts to cast on themselves?

    - What constitutes a new "day"?

    - Has there been testing performed to make sure that a new day does not cause problems with the cooldown timer? If the first application is at 22:59 server time, and the day transition happens at 00:00 server time, has there been testing to ensure that a new application is not possible until 03:59 server time?
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  • My understanding is that if (Attacker) A applies the broken gates, Defender A can attempt to fix the situation by also applying broken gates and selecting the opposite. Both players then should not be able to reapply anything for at least an hour. But keep in mind Defender B,C, and D could also have one. Either way, a 1hr cool down is applied to each individual use. I do believe that Defender B cannot apply his broken gates until the cooldown period for Defender A is complete but I would need clarification on that. Not sure how it works if multiple players use this
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  • Your entittled to kiss up if you like. Thats your choice. As for when the sort who do like these Items. What do think they will use them while your on. LMAO. I rather see a balanced fun game for the majority not just the few willing to exceedingly out spend everyone. As just because Evony planned it as the item functions doesnt mean it is not broken, unbalancing and clearly unfair. Just because they wish to push people to pay money by adding these off the wall unbalancing items into the game doesn't make them correct for the game balance. As of right now I don't see any of what yu consider a good side nor good thing out of this attempt to create a spending spree for unbalancing strats just to get buy.
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  • @Bard

    The questions being asked are about usage and validating that the items truly do work as is expected. As it is financially prohibitive, and thus unfeasible, for me to test these things myself, I am hoping that the discussion can stay to facts as much as possible.

    Thanks.
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    No reason to debate whether it was a right or wrong decision to make. The items were implemented and we have to live with it. If we don't like it, there are other options. No one is forced to play.

    Yesterday, I had the opportunist plague applied to my city, yet somehow I was still able to build layers while they were attacking me. It did reduce my idle population but never was it in the red or completely at 0

    Also, I've notice that the poison feast does not affect heroes that come to that city. It only applies to the heroes that are in the city at the time of the item being applied.

    @ATester have you used any of the angel items? Everyone I know always chooses the devil pact (LOL) in hopes of obtaining broken gates :D

    @Dave Can we please have more broken gates? It's amazing!
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