Switching our Facebook accounts

Sometimes for various reasons people change their facebook accounts. I wish there was some way we could change our linked facebook account. I've seen people ask how to do this quite a few times and to my knowledge there is no way to change it. One player lost his facebook for adding too many friends for evony. So he had to either play without facebook or make a new account.
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  • Well you are not allowed to have more than 1 facebook account.

    My account was disabled for adding too many friends. I emailed disabled@facebook.com and asked them why and they explained and fixed my account so I could go on again.
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  • I wasn't saying people have 2 accounts although many people do. Some keep their business accounts and personal/gaming separate etc. What I was getting at is a way to disassociate your currently linked account and link a new account
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    I believe many users want this. If not for changing accounts, then to have the right to unlink your Facebook from evony. That is impossible now.
    Evony decided that once you link your account to facebook it MUST stay that way forever! That is bad on it's own. If you agree, please 'like this idea' so Evony will know that there are more users who want this feature.
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  • I’m confident
    We will not switch Facebook accounts. The primary reason people want to do this is to share accounts, or to trade/sell accounts. If you do not want to see Evony game info on your Facebook you can hide/block the app using Facebook settings.

    Because this would facilitate account sharing/ trading and selling we are not able to offer this feature.
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    Thantium, that is complete BS. i am trying to do this as well, because i want to be able to have a FB FOR Evony, and a FB for friends from real life. i didn't think of this when i did it originally, and if that is really how Evony is set up, and why it is like that, then Evony is being truely stupid. people who play Evony like the bonuses, but don't always want their newsfeed with people they know to be full of evony stuff. i know i dont, so i dont do the bonuses.
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    Why not make a date and time when evony FB accounts are switched to the correct account. Something like once every month or two months on the first of the month would cut down on the sale of accounts by a huge factor. And any switching could only be done once during that time frame, cutting down on your point of alliance based accounts. Seems like that would appease anyone who wants to switch for a viable reason.
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    Oh one more thing.

    To cut down on the sale of accounts even more, don't announce when the accounts will be switched and do it at random intervals spaced weeks or months apart. Problem solved.
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    ...the standard evony response here is simply not rational on their part ...evony knows the network id of every account because it talks directly to the flash client (try buying a 2nd $5 special for instance)...they could EASILY allow fb account changes on the same network id w/o any realistic increase in the threat of account sellers exploiting such (who sells accounts to themselves?) ...and a limit to the frequency of such changes would effectively eliminate account shares.
    ...so what we have is evony programmers telling community support types that something cant be done because they don't want to spend the time doing it, not because there is any real reason for not allowing the switch.
    ...on the other hand, our alliance has several players w/o fb links because of this and it SEVERELY limits their game ...and thus ours.
    ...the sad truth is evony could fix this if they wanted to ...they just don't think its a big deal ...mostly because they don't play their own game by the same rules we have to.
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    • @ Tom,

      Please review the current state of Facebook, your friends DO NOT see any feeds from games as of September of last year, unless they play the game themselves. Facebook made this change quite awhile ago. You can turn that feed back on to yourself in the app data portion you can remove it from your blocked list.

      @William
      Your right we lock you in to your email and for a reason, we also provide a secondary email address slot on each account so that if you do change ISP's you are covered.
    • As far as I know, facebook rules state that no one person can have multiple accounts.

      Just saying.
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    ...first you totally ignore the fact that your entire argument is nonsense (see my original post) ...then you throw out this "secondary email" bit ...WHAT SECONDARY EMAIL ADDRESS SLOT????
    • In the account setting when you login from evony.com before you select a server you can manage your account and add a secondary email address.

      As for the ability to change FB ID's. This massively makes it easier to trade accounts, swap accounts, and share accounts. If you have the ability to change FB ID's you can transfer to another person with no worries. If you place it on an Evony on FB only account, you can share that info with your alliance members and have no worries giving out your personal information and protecting your account.

      As I have stated before theses posts do not appear on your wall to people not playing the game. This change would only facilitate sharing or trading of accounts.

      Yes technically it is fairly easy, the fallout of it is very negative, and will increase account sharing and trading/selling. As for Network ID are you refereing to IP address or MAC address? MAC address causes issues if people buy a new router or use different computers at home and work. IP address also cause issues as a home IP address will change on a regular basis, or if you play from home and or work.
    • Get this straight ...stop talking about fb posts appearing on the wall ...it is NOT the problem ...the inability to change the fb e-mail account linkage is the problem ...solve it.

      As for the rest, come on ...there are any number of rather simple security measures that would impede the selling/sharing of accounts while allowing the requisite changes in our fb e-mail links ...your answer is totally non-responsive ...if a player links a fb account, one based on his current ISP, to his evony account ...and then changes ISP ...according to you he is forever after locked out of using fb with his CURRENT evony account....that is simply untenable on the face of it and you know it.
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  • Dave Mata (Product Manager) March 18, 2011 21:51
    This is not on the table currently, nor will it be in the future.

    What we have is a solution that is looking for a problem.

    There is a second email address that can be used by a player to get emails from the game, EM Club, etc.

    Facebook already has a requirement that you can only have one FB account, and we're not going to allow players to change FB accounts, as it only makes selling of an account even easier.
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    1) the secondary e-mail account is a farce since it does not address the fb
    issue ...another non-answer.

    2) "nor will it be in the future" ...arrogance personified ...simply another non-response

    You don't get it ...period.

    YOU, not us, made fb an essential part of the game, a huge disadvantage for anyone not able to link their accounts

    YOU, not us, failed to provide ANY warning that linking an account was a once in a life-time decision

    YOU, not us, have a problem with YOUR inability to stop trading/selling of accounts and YOU choose to severely punish any player who for numerous perfectly legitimate reasons needs to change the linked account.

    YOU, not us, could easily rectify the alleged trading/selling issue through some rather simple program changes using mechanisms YOU already have in place for other aspects of the game WITHOUT IMPOSING AN UNTENABLE LIFETIME RESTRICTION TO AN ORIGINAL LINKED FACEBOOK ACCOUNT.

    Eventually the number of players you lose over this issue will force you to change that unsupportable "nor will it be in the future" stance ...sooner rather than later, I hope.
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    • well, what if u allow players that linked their account to unlinked them and then u prohibit those fb accounts from using evony again.
      the evony accounts are linked to new FB accounts and the old FB accounts are banned or mark as not allowed to connect to fb :)

      that is a nice solution and can be implemented in a few lines of programming code :)
    • lol dave can you point out to me where on both sites it refers to once an account is linked it is for life, i dont see it on the evony facebook page or on evony ToS
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    ...nice sarcasm ...I do software for a living, not a game

    ...first, I don't need an account change ...if you had actually read my posts, you'd know that ...but I have alliance members who do because they either de-linked before the fb posting change or have changed their e-mail address subsequently and in the process lost their fb linkage ...in neither of those instances do you offer any acceptable resolution to the clearly defined problem ...your answer is quite plainly, screw them, they're criminals trying to cheat Evony somehow ...when in fact, it is Evony that is cheating them and every other alliance member who is co-dependent upon them.

    ...second, the idea that you can't securely manage fb/evony account changes is farcical at best and insulting to your software development team's capabilities ...if you needed to, you could and would ...but the problem isn't big enough yet to force you to do it ...so you don't even try, you just blow it off ...and a growing number of your customers in the process.

    ...in the end, the number of customers lost because you refuse to solve this problem will compel you to make the required changes ...in the meantime, we get to observe this superb example of how not to provide community support to your existing customers.
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  • ITs pretty simple.

    You are only allowed (by facebook ToS) to have one (1)(ONE) FB acccount.

    By evony ToS each server can only have one (1)(ONE) account per server.

    These accounts get linked with FB. Therefore there is no need change the FB account that is linked to your account, unless you are breaking somebodies ToS.
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    ...it is pretty simple ...you haven't bothered to read the posts enough to understand the problem.

    ...once a fb account is de-linked for ANY reason, Evony provides no way to re-link it even though it is technically simple (they openly state so) ...since de-links DO happen w/o any evil intent on the part of the account owner, they are forever locked out of using fb with their current Evony account.

    ...instead of providing a way to relink legitimate fb and evony accounts, evony simply assumes they are all evil doers and permanently screws them ...and their fellow alliance members.

    ...evony "claims" this is a solution looking for a problem ...I say they don't play their own game by the same rules they impose on us and thus are suffering from severe vision limitations resulting from an evident case of rectal-cranial inversion.

    ...take a fairly common instance ...an evony player is a household member that uses a common fb account ...he links the accounts so that he can take advantage of fb gifting ...then for any number of reasons, he creates his own fb account ...and the common fb account is deleted ...Evony simply refuses to provide any way for him to link his new fb TOS compliant account to his existing Evony account ...they force him to either start over from scratch or play w/o any fb gifting benefits ...in either case he loses the value of time, effort, and ...god forbid ...money that he has invested in his current Evony account.

    ...to Evony, he's simply a criminal trying to cheat the game.

    ...
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    • Dave Mata (Product Manager) March 21, 2011 14:50
      I will also add, as my final statement on this - It will not happen now, or in the foreseeable future. There are far more important uses of time at hand, and the impact on legitimate players is negligible at best and extremely negative at worst.

      In the case cited above, the edge case where someone accidently de-links their account, or closes one FB account to start another - they can file a CS request in Helpspot. We'll investigate the account fully to determine usage, and then resolve the situation as appropriate.
    • Haha... this "Helpspot" should of been mentioned so many comments ago... XD
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    Unfortunately Evony reps, this is a problem. You have multiple underage players on this game at the moments and with that in mind you should at least make it known to all new players that you can only link facebook once. Internet security with minors is a major issue and if you're going to have minors playing this game, then you should definately place certain measure into effect to protect those players. There should be a very simple fix to the facebook linkage, sych as; allowing members one oppurtunity to switch facebook accounts, while all new members are given the facebook disclaimer I mentioned above and are thus properly warned and would not need to switch accounts. I, like many of your customers, have discovered your game on facebook and subsequently linked my private facebook account. Because much of this game is linked to facebook, I would like to continue playing and continue to be a paying customer and have all the oppurtunities available to me that others do without comprimision my own security. (Since facebook and other social networking sites have been linked to crime recently) Something needs to be done about this issue. I don;t feel like I should have to ask this of a customer service organization, but please, do not respond to me in the rude manner that you have responded to other. I am just stating that there is a larger issue than you see and it would be in everybody's best interest if you solved the problem. (Not the problem of account sharing, etc., the problem of facebook security.) Again, this is a major annoyance and makes many people, including myself, wish to quit playing Evony altogether and I am simply asking for a solution. I wish I could stress how much of a problem this is to me and many other players. Also, I am not now and will never be an account sharer or seller. I play for my own enjoyment and nothing else.
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    • Dave Mata (Product Manager) March 21, 2011 16:13
      I'm assuming you used Facebook Connect to make your account on feedback.evony.com? Yeah, don't do that if you don't want Facebook details made public. We have no control over the lack of data security or safety on FB. You'll probably find a solution via adjusting your Facebook connect settings.

      I for one do not use Facebook Connect with anything.
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    Hello ,

    can you please find me a solution to switch my personal facebook account to dedicated evony facebook account , as i don't want the players as i have 100+ in my list to check my personal life and start making comments to my pictures :S

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    Switching Facebook Account for privacy.
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  • Well Mr. Mata, that's good for you on the not using Facebook connect. Like I requested, I did not need a smart eleck response. Once again, can we treat this like two adults working towards a common goal? Or are we going to play like children? Can we reach a mutal agreement here and find a way that I can unlink my FB account from this game? Again, I do not wish to sell an account and I agree with your reasoning, I just believe there can be a way around this. Read what I posted about adding a disclaimer and allowing a one time reset for those who have created their accounts using facebook connect prior to the date you come out with the disclaimer. Do you have an answer to this?
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    • Of course you can 'de-link' the FB account - All Evony has to do is simply throw away the openauth key it has and never use it again, then get another openauth key for the new account and use that.
    • Dave Mata (Product Manager) January 03, 2012 13:29
      That doesn't take into account a lot of things, such as FB's ToS, FB's requirements on developers, FB's API, as well as industry standard for the creation and tracking of accounts.

      However, you are more than welcome to take up the mantle with FB to get this changed for all games if you'd like. They may be receptive to your idea.
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  • Well, I am not a computer whiz. Just a gamer who does enjoy Evony, but have one problem with it, which is what I'm trying to get at. You still have not answered the question though. Can we work this out or do I just need to quit paying for and playing Evony?
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  • I’m angry
    Thantium do u think that if i or anyone want to sell the account this will be hard ? simply i give him the direct evony user/pass and remove evony from my facebook , im asking to switch the account because i do care to receive heroic , holy water , plague ext ext ext , and at the same time i dont want these buffs to be posted on my wall , i do not mind to make a folder on facebook to drop the gifts in without been shoed on wall , is that possible as u control the application on facebook ? and again i i want to sell the account its sooooooooooooooooooooooooo easy
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  • Well, I see the type of people I'm dealing with. Can't fix a simple problem becuase of worries that should be easily solvable. But I guess nothing is easy and everything is worthless. We are all trying to find loop holes and sell our accounts. I really just don;t care anymore. I wish you would take the time to fix this problem. When you do, let me know and I'll debate over playing the game again or not. Until then though, you have lost a paying customer.
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    Think about this, If this was such an easy thing to do without making much bigger issues we would. I can assure all players we do not sit around thinking of things to piss off our players. We also do not refuse to make easy changes just to anger our players, that would be really really dumb. We are the largest game of this type for a reason.

    Yes in theory it is easy to change FB id's on accounts. The problem is there is no way for us to do this for the one out of 10,000 accounts that are mildly inconvenienced by this policy, without negatively affecting the hundreds of thousands of players that play this game daily.
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  • I’m mad as hell and not going to take it any more.
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    "one out of 10,000 accounts"
    ...in my 98 member alliance there are 4 that I know of ...1 in 10k is just another number you grabbed out of the ether.

    "that are mildly inconvenienced"
    ...like I've said repeatedly here, you don't play your own game by the same rules you impose on us ...else you could not possibly consider the loss of fb gifting a mild inconvenience.

    ...you won't have to worry about my posts any longer ...the arrogance and ignorance evidenced here by you and Mata about your own game and your paying customers is the final straw for me ...you just lost another paying customer.
    • Again, William illogical statements. No one has lost the ability to receive Facebook gifts, We just restrict the ability to change FB accounts to have gifts on an Evony only FB account which would violate FB's terms of service.

      Your right we pulled the number out of thin air correlating the number of active accounts vs the number of requests we get via customer service, we totally made that up.

      Good luck and have fun
    • Nice try Hinfman. Amazing how stubborn they are on something that should be an absolute non-issue
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  • I’m Furious
    You know, for being smart computer programmers, you don't seem to know math very well. Ever heard of something call the 'Bystander Effect' or ever permeuntation and combinations? Anytime there is an issue, i.e.: the one were talking about now,if one person stands up and speaks out about the issue, then there are multiple people who have the same issue, but do not speak up. For example, William and I have spoke up about this issue. Taking into account the bystander effect, this means that logically speaking there are hundreds of thousands of people who have the same issue, they just do not have the time or energy to speak up about it. I am surprised that a company has hired you as service reps, when you have no customer service ability and you do not attempt to provide customer satifaction. For your statement about cheater. Do we lock down the enitre nation, because we have an issue with terrorism? No, we do not. We watch for signs and we do not affect others personal freedoms. The same applies here. Just because you have a small amount of people who cheat and sell/share accounts, does not mean that this is the majority and everyone with this issue SHOULD NOT be labeled "terrorists"(cheaters) so to speak. You have flat out told us that the only reason we want to switch Facebook accounts is because of cheating and selling our accounts. Well, you two gentlemen are narrow minded. You need to slow down, get off your kick of cheaters, and try and take care of your loyal customers. (William and I) All we are asking for is a chance to keep our private lives private. We should not be labeled cheaters and be written off so quickly. Unfortunately for you, this is an issue and it does need to be fixed whether you understand it now or not.

    Lets do some math, shall we? By your 1:10,000 statement, there are 19,700 players who have this issue. Using logical thinking, this is too small of a reference. 1:1000 would be more accurate, which would mean that 197,000 players have this issue. And now that we know about bystander effect, we can accurately assume that one response to Evony help(and i use this term loosely) team equals roughly 100,000 voices(this is the same in government and voting), that there are roughly 200,000 people with this issue. (That are not cheaters). Is this enough for you to considered a solution? Or, once again, am I the ignorant customer who knows nothing about computer programming and should therefore just shut up?

    Also, quit stating that prople are illogical, when it is you who is being illogical. From what I have seen in this post, you are one minded and worried about a SMALL group people, so you remove the vast majority's freedoms. It is you who is thinking illogically about this situation.
    • I'm starting to suspect that they have a bad case of eggs-in-the-face, and now just stubbornly hold on to their idiot position. I mean; you get the same stupid argument over, and over, and over, (plus some badly disguised insults) and never ever is the issue really addressed. K, you did a good job trying to explain how it really is, but I'm afraid they can't process that much information without going into shut-down mode.
      For reference, I have 5 members in my 98 member alliance that gripes about this. I told them to visit this thread, but I'm afraid they saw the futility of it and backed off.
    • We took that into effect actually. We took number Monthly Active Players "MAU" divided by number of tickets submitted on this issue in a month "X" and actually multiplied by 12 to get the 1 in 10k number even then the number was alot higher then 10k . So in fact (MAU / X)*12 > 10,000 In reality the multiplying number is actually higher then 12, when you take into account average age of account data, and a factor to offset the unreported number.

      Turns out that Gaming is serious business, and believe it or not the people at Evony know how to read numbers and data, and no we will not release ticketing data or MAU.

      Even assuming your numbers you are positing that 4% or 5% of active players want this. Considering how much easier it will make for alliances to share accounts in Age II, and to a lessor extant Age 1, you should see that avoiding a minor inconvenience of sharing your FB account with your Evony account which does not restrict you in any way, does much more harm then good. Lets be honest here in no way does having your Evony account tied to your personal FB account restrict you in anyway shape or form. It may be unwanted or slightly inconvenient to some players but is in no way preventing gameplay.
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  • I’m Irritated
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    So , by Tom's estimation, my estimation was inaccurate. 1:20 people have this issue which raises the grand total to 9.85 million.

    Also, to point out the arrogance in your logic with account sellers. Anyone who sells an account, created that account to be sold.

    With knowledge of Evony's TOS regarding account sharing/selling, these sellers know the risks of getting caught. Therefore, account sellers have to attempt to 'outsmart' the programmers and staff members.

    This means account sellers abide by the appropriate measures to obtain their goal: successful profit.

    Now you tell me, are you going to create an account to be sold and then link it to your personal Facebook account? Account sellers aren't stupid. They are not going to create an account and sell an account if its linked to their personal Facebook.

    If account sellers do link a Facebook account, they will create the Facebook acount to be sold along with the Evony account.

    Therefore, account sellers will NEVER encounter this issue and you are only causing harm to your ligitimate players.

    All of my numbers were taken from the wrong source. Now the numbers come from your homepage. So, to elminiate your ability to give me a negative response, I will fix them. 1:10000=1,800(0.0001%) 1:1000=18,000(.01%) 1:20=900,000(20%). Percentages obviously are the same no matter which numbers you start with.
    In my opinion, even an error that is produced 0.0001% of the time during code causes the entire code to be faulted and should therefore be corrected.

    This entire objection to your logic could have been avoided(or at least more polite) if your were polite when I first posted. However, you were not.
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    • You have the right to defend any position you want to take on this. After all, it is your comapny's decision and you have the right as an American company to do as you wish. I just wish the was handled witha little more tact when I first posted. I feel that Mr. Mata's post to me was condensending and unecessary. Like I stated before, I am done playing Evony. Have a good day.
    • Your account sharing assertion amongst alliance members makes no sense at all as they could simply share the Evony login since that would still allow them access to the account. The Evony representatives have repeatedly mentioned account selling, but as has already been pointed out, people who sell accounts create seperate facebook IDs, so the only people who really get screwed are those with legitimate facebook linkage problems. I know people who's facebook accounts have been hacked and they lost access to them. I know a guy who's girlfriend locked him out of his facebook account. I know another who had his account shutdown for adding too many friends and they won't reinstate it. Their policy on facebook linking is very short-sighted when you consider facebook is a 3rd party that neither Evony or the facebook account holder has complete control over. I personally don't like the facebook linking mechanism at all and wish they'd find some other method for doing the gifting.
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    Wow. I came here looking for a solution and I'm amazed and appalled at what I've found. The arrogance and snarkiness of the Evony people is amazing. I'll be donating my resources to teammates and leaving the game as soon as I can. I hope Zuckerberg buys Evony.
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    • Dave Mata (Product Manager) June 29, 2011 17:15
      Brian- please send it to me at the forum. I have FB connected, but it's my work account connected to my personal FB account, so for that reason I don't use it for gifts and such. I've not found any place where my profile image was exposed in client though.

      So thanks for the screen shot offer.
    • No problem. I should qualify that it only shows up for people you are allied with, and thus have added as a friend on facebook, so it doesn't really make frenchboy's case at all, as he could just not friend people he thinks are suspect. The profile pictures show up on the facebook bar and the ally list, unless they set security in facebook on what gets shared, which is yet another method to prevent what he is referring to.
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  • I’m silly
    I still get messages from this thread and like to see what's happened since i left. Yup. After 6 months playing and 100+ bucks spent, I just quit cold turkey. Got really tired of Evonys tactics and underhanded ways of sucking every possible dollar out of you. Anyhow; have fun out there in Evonyland and I hope my four 10 cities made someone happy.
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    I did a search for "lost access to my facebook account" in Google and there were 276,000,000 results. Interestingly, if you search for "sell evony account", there are only 257,000 results, most of which are people asking if you can sell them.
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  • Dave Mata (Product Manager) June 28, 2011 16:04
    As was stated previously, facebook accounts cannot be switched, or unlinked. This will not happen now, and will not happen in the future.

    If you are concerned about potential privacy risks with Facebook, you can close your Facebook account. We do not make profile information available to anyone outside of the company.

    There are several reasons for not allowing account changing or unlinking, however the most important one is that it is technically impossible based on the current architecture and operability of the Connect API. We have no control over that, nor will we.
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  • I’m distracted
    Dave and Thantium, your answer is noted, and as I've stated before, I don't use Facebook myself; I don't even have an inactive account on it. That said, I believe there are some legitimate reasons why some people would want to unlink their Evony account from their FB account. Whether this works under both company's terrms of service, though, is open to interpretation.

    Here is the first scenario. A player starts an Evony account on server X, using his primary e-mail account. He links this Evony account to his FB account. Later, server Y opens, and he starts an account there using his secondary e-mail account. He gets killed on server X, and decides to quit that server, concentrating all his time on server Y, where he is having much better luck, having started the server on Day 1. After awhile, he realizes that he wants the benefits of a linked FB account on server Y, but cannot do so, as it is linked to server X.

    Second scenario (and this actually happened to a RL friend of mine who plays in my alliance): Player creates Evony account. After playing for awhile, player finds out about liking a FB account to his Evony account, and decides to do so. Somehow, when he does this, he messes it up, and instead of linking to his existing Evony account, it creates a brand-new Evony account for him and links to that. Now he seems to be barred from linking to his actual Evony account, even though he is not playing the new account.

    I understand your reasons for the policy. They are good reasons. Just understand that there are people with legitimate reasons to unlink an account from FB as well.
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    • Of course it's technically possible. Evony as a whole can obviously link to multiple FB accounts. FB doesn't know or care what happens on Evony's side. So, all Evony needs to do is forget about using one FB account for a particular Evony account and use a different FB account.

      If you are being told that it's not technically possible to have Evony use a different FB account for a particular Evony account, then the person telling you either doesn't understand things, or is being disingenuous.
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  • I’m not amused
    Evony dint responde to anything. Just said a robo reply.

    I play on 4 Servers and all of them are connected to 1 FB account. While I know this is now was a idiot move. I am competing with people with Multi Evony accounts and FB accounts. Each Evony with there own FB account so they get way more bnous power, free resources and ability to send and recieve way more gifts among there freands and allies. So Evony you telling me you dont want to fix it, or level the playing field because you dont want to expend the effort to do so. All the while people who obey the rules get punished.

    So are you planning to do anything helpfull. 1 was the food free day but I havent seen you really truelly adress any of the serious issues of late.
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  • One of the main reason people doesn't want to link to real facebook account is, that it will expose real friends list to unknown evony friends...

    If people would have linked real account by mistake, they don't have any other option to relink to another evony specific facebook account. This is rediculas to not to give an option. This makes people to move out from evony.

    Evony team has to identify some other option to restrict trading-off of the account, not by this way....I don't know how they will do this for non linked account.. Still people can trade their account... across.........

    No one will buy the account.. if they want to really play the game....
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  • I’m frustrated
    To be honest after reading all these posts I see reasoning behind both sides. My current situation is i dont want friends from evony able to comment or post on my wall where family/friends/clients can see. This to me seems to be the most common concern. A lot of evony players have no reguard for other people and when you add them in the game it inevitably adds them in facebook giving them access to do just that. Sure you can add them to a list etc but they still have all access to your profile/pics/wall and can post anything they please. This is not fair to those who want a clean reputation on our FB profiles as i mainly use mine for business and have already had to delete many idiotic and sometimes rude/obscene/offensive comments.
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  • I’m foaming at the mouth
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    well, what if u allow players that linked their account to unlinked them and then u prohibit those fb accounts from using evony again.
    the evony accounts are linked to new FB accounts and the old FB accounts are banned or mark as not allowed to connect to fb :)

    that is a nice solution and can be implemented in a few lines of programming code :)"

    Why cant you just do this. I dont know that much about software but surely it cant be super hard to do this.
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    • Simple solution to Make Evony people Happy. Charge a small fee for the service, it probably end up earning more money than selling game cents.
    • Dave Mata (Product Manager) January 06, 2012 15:00
      I would be behind that Carlos, if it were technically possible. Since it isn't possible, the discussion point is moot. Sadly.
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    I'm off work injured and my boss replied to a evony post making fun of how I spend my time off, so I reject your theory that those who don't play can't see posts! check my acct I'm a thousand dollar a month player and I'm going to quit evony over this
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    see the change log
  • ok so I set up facebook account for my son to play evony and get the amulets and posts and it gets disabled because i didnt want my son to use his real name and now I can't change it to a new facebook profile with his real name?
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  • You keep saying that the reason evony doesn't make these changes is because it will make it easy for players to buy/sell their accts.

    That cannot be a truthful answer because it is very easy now to buy/sell accts. On NA29 a player called Oziorah was rightly banned after he was found to have hacked other accounts because, as it turns out he brought an acct and in the messages of the facebook account it had details of other players.

    Oziorah now cant play his acct but is now playing at least 3 accts that I know of that he has brought and been given.

    It seems you cant even ban the player that has been caught cheating. Being able to change or remove facebook accts wouldn't cause buying/selling/giving of accts as it is already happening as easy as it is to breath.

    Why cant you ban the player and not just the acct? that would stop the buying/selling/swapping of accts and allow other players the freedom to have their facebook associated to whatever game or friend they want.
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  • Dave Mata (Product Manager) July 16, 2012 21:20
    No, we keep saying the reason doesn't make the changes is because of the technical infeasibility of the whole thing.
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  • That seems to be a change from the above response.

    A response from Thantium.

    "We will not switch Facebook accounts. The primary reason people want to do this is to share accounts, or to trade/sell accounts. If you do not want to see Evony game info on your Facebook you can hide/block the app using Facebook settings.

    Because this would facilitate account sharing/ trading and selling we are not able to offer this feature."

    Note: The primary reason people want to do this is to share accounts, or to trade/sell accounts

    and

    Because this would facilitate account sharing/ trading and selling we are not able to offer this feature.

    Account giving/trading is already a bad virus in the game. Why are you not fixing that and do something about the facebook issue?
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    The only "facebook issue" that currently exists with respect to this discussion is that people originally did not abide by Facebook's Terms of Service, which specifically state that you are supposed to use your real name, and have ONE account on the service.

    Now, while I understand that people want to have a "gaming account" on Facebook so that real life and gaming life is kept separated, Facebook at this point in time does not provide an option for that. If people desire a change to where Facebook does allow that, the people to talk to about making that change is Facebook.

    For reference purposes, here is the exact wording used, which you can read at Facebook Statement of Rights and Responsibilities

    This is item 4:


    Registration and Account Security

    Facebook users provide their real names and information, and we need your help to keep it that way. Here are some commitments you make to us relating to registering and maintaining the security of your account:

    You will not provide any false personal information on Facebook, or create an account for anyone other than yourself without permission.
    You will not create more than one personal account.
    If we disable your account, you will not create another one without our permission.
    You will not use your personal timeline for your own commercial gain (such as selling your status update to an advertiser).
    You will not use Facebook if you are under 13.
    You will not use Facebook if you are a convicted sex offender.
    You will keep your contact information accurate and up-to-date.
    You will not share your password (or in the case of developers, your secret key), let anyone else access your account, or do anything else that might jeopardize the security of your account.
    You will not transfer your account (including any Page or application you administer) to anyone without first getting our written permission.
    If you select a username or similar identifier for your account or Page, we reserve the right to remove or reclaim it if we believe it is appropriate (such as when a trademark owner complains about a username that does not closely relate to a user's actual name).
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