Undraftable troop numbers

In age2, at least on NA1, there are undraftable numbers that once reached in the specific range, those troops can not be drafted at all.
Around 12 million warriors
Around 3 million pikes
Around 3 million swords
Around 3 million archers
Around 15 million archers
and even more ranges.

What is the purpose of this? To make HC drafting useless? I hope you all explore this problem and fix it.
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  • Not really. There to buisy bleeping the game up for everyone so its no longer fun on the cheap. lmao
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  • 3mil archers? That was around the number that caused bugs in attacking a while ago, I believe. Tell me, does drafting work off getting the unit with the highest attack by any chance?
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  • I have no idea. But with these numbers sometimes the best draft would be 1k phracts or 1k mechs...
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  • Its BS if you want to avoid draft you should have to hide them! as the server progresses in no time EVERYONE will have those numbers rendering HC's all useless when pvp! Cmon evony fix this!
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  • I think if you can support that unreal ammount of troops. Hell you earned a pardon from a HC draft, lmao

    I thought each troop type had a set point value and the one troop type with the most set point Value gets drafted first.
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  • It's not hard to support that amount of troops, it's nowhere near unreal for NA1.

    With the tanking numbers, any troop type that's tanked gets bypassed.
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  • this is a serious problem! battles over HCs will become even less frequent because its just not worth the hassle, sort it out evony!!!!
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  • So, again i will try to tell you guys about the undraftable numbers.

    last time i included screenshots and you only told me about stratagems in age 2.

    this is frustrating for me since im holding atlantis. that if u have enough troops u cant be drafted, its a real bummer.

    http://evonyinsider.com/2011/08/draft...

    thats a link to a page descriping the numbers.. if you could please figure this out it would make this game a tad bit more bareable.

    its just awful that if they make enough troops they wont get drafted, then i have to go find smaller targets to draft, and therefor be punishing them..that also throws gameplay out, dont you think?

    - Scary @ NA15

    This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
    undraftable troop numbers, fix it please..
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  • i see my thread got merged into this one, losing all comments and what not....

    but evony, please answer me, will you guys do something about it ?
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  • That sucks to have Atlantis and have pretty much 0 good drafts daily, totally unfair. An alliance mate of mine has a 16 with some hostile 14s in the state and is resorted to drafting level 10s most days. I sent in a report about a week ago about this matter, via evony but of course they haven't replied about the problem. Maybe taking this to the forums will garner the most attention and evony will finally reply.
    • Er, smack the city once with a decent attack and draft away? Simple solution.
    • I control a 16 in an all blue state, however it hasn't always been all blue. I've delt w/ draftproof #'s, they don't work on Disarmament. Someones got 1.6 mil archer???? ok, wait till about 23:59:30 sever time, hit that disarm, @ 00:00:00 server time, draft BOOM, large archer scoop.

      Stupid players who do nothing but bot and get on once a day to click a draft button want these #'s fixed so they can sit in their 0.0 alliance and do nothing. N00bs. Learn to play the game that is there rather than b1tching about it 24/7
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    there's one way to make the troops draftable, attack and kill some of the troops. but most people want to sit back and speech text / comfort / pass the HC and have no troops in their HC and just draft.

    those two things balance, if you just want to sit and draft then the person can just sit back and be undraftable.
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    i finally got a ok answer from evony!!

    Greetings,

    Recently you submitted a bug report. All bug reports receive direct attention by the Evony Team. We are aware of the bug you have reported and we are currently collecting information about it. We appreciate our players taking the time to submit reports that constantly bring us closer to correcting bugs. A staff member has reviewed this report, and will be adding it to our logs.

    Thank you for your report and for playing Evony,

    Best Regards,

    Evony Team
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  • I’m Get it fixed Evony.
    Here is a reply from Evony Customer Service regards drafts from colonies reducing to nothing when there are troops in the city.

    Ray · November 21 2011, 08:41 PM
    Dear Customer,
    Thank you for contacting Evony Customer Service.
    The rate of a successful draft will be decreased if the colony has not been logged in for a long time. This is part of the game mechanism and it's not a glitch that can be fixed.
    Please let me know if you have any other questions or need further assistance.
    Best Regards,
    Ray
    Customer Service
    Evony Team

    I tried posting it to the forums, but it was deleted by Evony Moderators or Admin both times. What are they scared of that they need to hide this kind of information from their own staff. Is it incorrect or do they not want the players to know who the game works (or infact as it is viewed - DOESNT WORK!)
    • for sure it should be information to be spread around, that post was the first i had heard of diminishing draft numbers from colonies. However, the problem is with HC drafting and what i find funny is that the link that Thomas posted indicates that escaping the draft from HCs has obviously been exploited for some time, the numbers have been tested over and over to find the right levels.

      i'm really hoping this can be resolved, if a player can port next to my HC and I can't draft him because his numbers are at certain levels then whats the point in having a HC making myself a target?
    • The point is 0.0 can draft anything on the map not just something that ports in on it.

      How do you expect to maintain a competitive environment after 0.0 has fallen if it can draft from enemy 16's and 14's more than that player can build in a day?

      Basically your saying you want 0.0 to be allowed to built outrageous troop counts without anything being able to hinder it, while limiting your enemies to low troop counts so there is absolutely no competition on the server?

      You should like the type of guy who'd enjoy taking your softball team up against a bunch of 12 year old little leaguers.
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    No evony, don't do this, it will be a real bad idea to do this, atlantis will becomg even more uncappable as he will draft mass amount of troops, this will create an even bigger unbalance in the game - one thing you guys have been trying to stop.

    This will actually be bigger then patching the multi-taps on NPCs, it will totally spoil the game for a lot of people, more people will quit ect ect.
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    I understand this may be annoying to some players - but whats the point in fixing it, it will just make Atlantis untouchable permanently.. there is too many glitches that have stayed late in the game to be fixing now - Fixing them just makes people rather play farmville compared to evony, because you're fixing these "Glitches" too far into the game. Its as if you are trying to make this game become more and more unpopular.
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    No evony, don't do this, it will be a real bad idea to do this, atlantis will becomg even more uncappable as he will draft mass amount of troops, this will create an even bigger unbalance in the game - one thing you guys have been trying to stop.

    This will actually be bigger then patching the multi-taps on NPCs, it will totally spoil the game for a lot of people, more people will quit ect ect.
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    don't 100% agree with whats written above, but i seriously advice evony not
    to change a important part of the game AGAIN on servers that have been up and running for a long time now. It just makes folks mad. PLZ PLZ PLZ keep the changes
    for the new servers that r gonna come online and don't ruin our gameplay
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    so what you three just said is that you are exploiting a known glitch in-game, your only voicing your concerns now because you're afraid you're exploit might be taken away from you.

    the people that have used millions of troops to obtain HCs deserve to be able to use them to the full capacity, you can do reinforced troop swaps to prevent drafting or hide them in valleys, two legitimate tactics. Atlantis is not the only HC on a server, there are hundreds.
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    • The royal deal was getting out of hand. When you have a player porting in two cities with 20 queens/king there is something wrong. Multi-tap didn't have to be fixed as it created an imbalance in the servers it was applied to. The undraftable deal at least makes it so that I, and others, won't just quit the server outright as soon as Atlantis is taken. Server longevity I say!
    • Exactly @ Anthony

      Taking HC's from the computer isn't hard at all JediSanta. Took a 16 on my first server after taking 2 12's and a 14 all from NPC and then busted like 8 14's in 1 hit for people.

      What makes it a glitch that if you have over a certain # of troops of one kind it will defer to a lower troop type? It doesn't say in the policy it will draft the highest troop count, it just says one troop type.

      I've got a good proposed change. Limit speech texts to like 4 or 6 a day. Limit the amount of times the governor can raise loy on that city to the same. Don't allow comforting to raise loy on HC's but have an auto-regen like it's still an NPC. If someone closes gates, it will be a matter of time before they are forced open and a fight will occur. This will also prevent people from holding cities indefinitely after all the troops have been killed.
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  • Fixing that glitch will end up in that way that more player will leave the game
    because its getting harder and harder to keep it all running.
    The farming glitch that evony fixed makes it hard for all to farm the food
    to stay able in moving troops to attack someone.
    But that one is only an advantage for a few players but a big disadvantage
    for most of the other players. That will make a lot of them moving to a new
    server or even quit that game for all.
    I am not spending money to be able to attack someone if the troops i have
    all get drafted by atlantis or other guys with a 16.
    If that glitch gets fixed i will leave that game in a short time after that.
    If you want that.....ok....
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    Randomm, is atlantis blue to you? My guess is yes, if it wasnt then you would be signing a different tune.
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  • The big benefit of taking an Historic City is that you get drafts from cities within the draft range of that HC.

    The glitch/bug in the program is such that players can put numbers of troops in a city within a draft range of any Historic City without any fear of having those troops drafted, thereby making having an historic city worthless as a level 10 city would be more of use given that it comes already fully built, unlike any Historic City.

    Those who are advocating that the glitch/bug is not fixed are hiding behind a game play error.

    To get any Historic City takes troops, lots of troops, if this glitch is allowed, it really will make hitting historic cities pointless.
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  • you know if they fix it, then we all have a fair shot....the ones getting drafted can reinforce or hide in valleys, atleast then u have a shot of figuring out where the troops are so you can atleast kill them if nothing else..
    but the way it is now, its just useless...
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  • funny,,, over 2 weeks, and not one response from a 'evony rep',,, they sure do answer the easy questions right away. Guess this is just too tough for them to answer. Why fix glitches,, if THEY CANNOT BENEFIT MONETARILY from it.

    The ONLY reason they fixed the food glitch, was because non-coiners could keep up with coiners in food production. Now, if you want a big army, you HAVE to buy vesta's... There is no money benefit to fixing this glitch, so my guess is, you WILL NEVER EVEN GET A REPLY from a rep on this.
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    Evony, can't you see that the people that are saying to get rid of this are people that will benefit from it? It will harm people more than benefit people and create an even bigger unbalance, something which you guys are trying to stop.

    If you guys are saying it's unfair, why not kill their undraftable troops instead of trying to draft their undraftable troops and making you guys stronger and creating an even bigger unbalance?
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    • ALL cities are capable. I've not found one that isnt yet unless your speaking about Speech Text's in which case I agree with you that Speech Texts should have a cooldown or removed from FB in full.

      And an Historic City does have the right to draft 5% of one troop type from any city within it's draft range. If you don't like being drafted, don't put that many troops in that city - or move it (non-HC)

      The bonus for getting an HC is it's ability to impose a Policy on it's surrounding cities.
    • You are obviously an evony n00b if your not familiar w/ the fact that cities are not cappable if a player is online.

      1 warehouse (doesn't even have to be leveled that high), a few farms. you'll NEVER lose ur city. Just disaster relief every 15 minutes and you cannot drop below 9 loy I believe.
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  • Right. Hey Evony this thing is glitched! But the whiners here are the ones who can't take a HC themselves! But lets say they have one...oh noes I can't send a small putter wave to knock troops down a number then draft away! GOD!

    Please people. You are complaining that this is a glitch and therefore needs to be fixed. Now list ALL the ones the everyday player in Evony has been encountering since Age II freaking started. Hey Evony on NA25 we have some bots, please remove them. No their accounts. What they paid? What if they stop? You'll remove them then? Awesome.

    It takes an experienced player to take out a HC, it takes a worthless player to complain about something that is easily circled around. They have x number of undraftable scouts? Send 100k, 5% of their x number will easily cover your expenses. Also why the fack are you ppl allowing them to get that high? Got issues attacking before hand THEN you complain about them being undraftable? Damn, Evony used to be full of non-whiners, yet all I see are people stumbling upon a small easily circled glitch yet keeping their mouth shut about everything else.

    Jolly.
    T
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    • That doesn't even mean anything. That was a retort to "all I see are people stumbling upon a small easily circled glitch" and then "Oh and pleeaaase Evony remove the fact that an ex-alliance member can be drafted by the same alliance he/she left and then port next to a HC and NOT get drafted. That is totally unfair :'("

      Nowhere did I mention ever using that glitch. Quit making assumptions.
    • @ Anthony, Right on. I've taken Multiple 14's from ONLINE ACTIVE players PVP who have been acct sharing and or using a bot. It's taken time (sometimes weeks), and a lucky opportunity but it happens.

      We attacked one player who was using a bot in a 14 for weeks, had a city 1 mile. His bot would close gates on scout bombs, so keeping his walls down was easy, one night we discovered gates were closed and staying closed so we started robbing all the resources. His bot appeared to be offline, himself too. When loy hit 5 and the gates opened we had everyone we could port in and hit hard, there was over 10 million troops in the HC (draft-proof so we disarmed from the 16). By the time we broke the 14 loy was sitting at 0 and was quickly captured.
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    i would rather see evony fix other things like multi-accounting and botting then this glitch.
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  • ok lets say they "fix" this atlantis drafts TEN times a day and will have no issues finding ten undraftable cities on my server thats over 3.5 mil war's or more i would love to hear someone tell me that that would be fair
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    • So what if atlantis is a big cap? It's not as if the person who holds it was the only person to take it, multiple people did. Full alliances did. When we all have big troop counts, whats the point in keeping low defenses in a HC when somebody will port on it and whipe it easily? Having to do this will just promote people to account share more.. but if we keep high troop counts in, the big HC holders have one hell of a time drafting.

      People have managed to far with drafting people and getting around undraftable numbers, so why should it be stopped now because a few people that it will benefit from arent happy?

      Also, people don't say it's against the TOS as i;m 99.9% sure you will have exploited the food glitch.
    • never used the multi farm, i dont keep food in my cities so why should i exploit a food farming glitch.
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    its funny that some of you actually think this is a glitch that evony did not create in the first place, like the food one which they took away and conveniently let slip there was another one within days of fixing the 7 - 8 taps on lvl 10 npc's and another like the queen/king glitch. i am on server na29 and most of these glitches as ye call them have been there since na1 do you really think evony does not all ready know about them all and even the ones we dont know about that have been written into the game deliberately to get people hooked or maybe by one of there programmers who play the game etc, who knows really. multi accounting and botting has been going on since the game began and if they havent figured out how to fix them by now then they probably will not so no point complaining about it as they probable get 10s of thousands of mails about it, think about it 19 million people play this roughly do you really think evony will or even any company will spend the money and resourses, manpower needed to fix some of these issues ye are talking about which have been around the past 10 odd years. there are many things they can add to the game to make it better which alot of people have suggested alot of really good ideas to make the game better, but evony refuses to listen to them as well (maybe not all) take this food issue at the min alot of people are having an issue with, why not have 1 billion food (this is just a figure, picked out of my arse) in the hc12s that we can farm, i for one would be happy to farm hc 12s for 1 billion food a hit, and alot of people would as well. same as other hcs they have a few functions but can be way better, pick the 10s you can have white ones and black ones whatever colour but have them harder to hit and more costly but make it worth the hit etc not just sticking with the same farming methods they have been doing since server 1 age 1, its this simple the game is not evolving as quick as people would like, but it certainly makes alot of money for the developers so why bother changing it (this is a business at the end of the day, and very lucrative).
    this is my take on this game, like it dont like it, either way i aint losing any sleep over a game i play for fun "glitches" or not.
    Regards
    Macros
    WarHorse
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      see the change log
    • i think this is close enough to the start to be exact, man it feels so much longer.

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  • i think it is funnie how many are crying about this but yet are scared to post their in game name we all in a way love this inless you are the owener of Atlantis
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    Once Atlantis is taken by a player, the server is basically dead. With the ability of reinforcements and 10 drafts a day, it's near impossible for anyone to take Atlantis back. Draft proofing HAS to be kept or the game would be even more unbalanced. This game would be so much better if Atlantis didn't exist at all.
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    Evony needs to take undraftable troops away. Also you should be able to draft reinforcements, because they are in that city. Then when Atlantis is captured most people will move to new server and Evony gets more money
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    That sounds like a gimp kiss up to Evony if I ever saw one. lol

    You mean building troops and spending time farming resources to build troops only to be drafted by an HC you most likely couldnt touch without a whole group of back up is any less unbalancing than Undraftable troop numbers.

    2 sides of the story as its not not that simple ya know.
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  • If they take undraftable troops away Evony also needs to address the endless speech texts and comforting. That way you can kill off the city constatnly drafting you.
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  • I’m indifferent
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    say they fix the undraftable numbers, the Atlantis owners would be able to draft anyone, which would provoke an attack.
    now, the Atlantis owner will just close gates, comfort/speech text, draft again. day after day, week after week, month after month. keeping an eye on the amount of troops they get from 16's, if its low, they'll port in a city with a fraction of what they got from drafts, only to have the 16 owner do the same :/

    if they fix the undraftable numbers, they'll NEED to fix the constant loy raising/botting/HC truce.

    it's no secret that every Atlantis/16 owner ether bots or shares their accounts.
    evony never does anything about it, so why not?...
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    For evony to address the draft #'s and do nothing for the texting and comf. i think it will cost them a ton of money cause player's will leave the game. I know i spend alot in game as do other player's from NA-1.So the ball is in evony's yard now i guess it is their call they run a company to make money not lose WEL I HOPE :)
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  • I’m upset
    If draft proof desapears several will quit evony will not ongly lose money but players as well. say this take a very exp very big vcoiner and a noob. exp takes 16 noob alliance and tht noob takes 16 from them. now u got a big defernce wait am i goin to get drafted but he cant draft me i got numbers.. so in turn its now balanced. my point is this u take the numbers away people quit they dont move on they quit. ull destroy ur own game. simple as that. i love this game but i garuntie u take tht away ill gladly move on to somthing else.

    Ty for reading this
    Enteri
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  • Draft Proof Troops

    Workers >9,600,000
    Warriors >7,050,000
    Scouts >3,100,000
    Pikemen >2,400,000
    Swordsmen >1,600,000
    Archers >1,600,000
    Cavalry >770,000
    Cataphracts >250,000
    Transports >730,000
    Ballista >220,000
    Battering Rams >165,000
    Catapults >77,000

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  • 1,600,000 archers only works with certain hero's - 1,700,000 is safe
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  • if evony ends the draftproof numbers i will quit as well, this would make atlantis ridiculously overpowered, the hide and seek on drafting is a big part of the game.
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